2012 Season expectations

[sprhawk]

http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/seahawks/2018799608_seahawks29.html

It is good to see that PC is looking to make more W's than L's this season but is it realistic to think we will make the playoffs this season?

If things go perfectly, I think we can. But historically, it just doesn't work that way. There are very few QB's that have taken thier team to the playoff's in thier first year. Peyton might be able pull it off this season but he is more than just a QB.

It is my opinion that cohesion, timing and teamwork are something you have to spend time on to develop. It took Hass 3 years to help bring the NFC West Title to Seattle and he was supported by Rice, Jackson, Engram and SA. Are we anywhere near that level or am I missing something?

 

[bobflipaburger]

Well, Matt didn't have a potential top 5 defense or one of the best backs in the league... I was really young when Hass signed here, but didn't we have a declining Ricky Watters as our running back?

 

[sprhawk]

Ricky was out in 2002, and after growing together for 2 seasons Hass, SA and Hutch had established thier timing and teamwork. Tatupu, Hill, Lewis, Darby, Dyson, Seattle's 2005 defense was disciplined and sure-handed. It felt like no tackle was ever missed. Tatupu famously was seen re-arranging the defensive lineman pre-snap to put them in the best position to succeed. For the first time, Seattle's defense seemed smart and a step ahead. It helped to have the franchise's best offense possessing the ball and scoring the 2nd most points in the NFL, but the defense was vastly improved.

Timing and Development of the Offense, imo, is why we went to the SB in 2005. Well that and adding Tatupu.

We may have an excellent Defense but I'm not thinking playoffs until our QB,RB and Line are given time to develop. Which also why I've felt we have been wasting every season since 2007.

We have Flynn, Turbin and a young line. If they are given the time to develop we could be headed to another dance in a couple of years. Hopefully our defense won't be a mess by then but I don't think defenses need as much time together to develop as the offense.

 

[bobflipaburger]

Matt signed here in 2001. You keep throwing out these names out there like they were here when Matt signed... Yes, Alexander was here, yes Hutch was here so were Jackson and Engram and obviously Jones ... But Dyson, Tatupu, and Hill weren't here until 2005. Jerry Rice wasn't here until the middle of 2004.. 2001 was Koren Robinson's rookie year.

Defensively you're looking at guys like Anthony Simmons, Chad Brown, a washed up John Randle, Reggie Tongue, Chad Eaton, etc.

 

[szat]

Noone is saying we'll go 13-2 this season, (yes 13-2 in 2005), but we have a chance to improve to a winning record, and have a shot at the playoffs, that is my expectation for this team this year.

 

[sprhawk]

If Flynn and Turbin were to take over I really believe that this year is the beginning of the real rebuild. We will have a couple of seasons of growing pains.

I really don't think Lynch should be a part of the progression of the team, he doesn't fit where we are at. In fact if it wasn't for Lynch do you think PC would be pushing for the playoffs? Turbin is in the perfect position to grow with the offense and in a couple of years we could be on our way to another 4 or 5 years of Titles.

Is it just me or do people (and PC) think teams become good overnight?

Sure, if you bring in veterans it could happen but we don't have that going on in Seattle.

 

[sprhawk]

But Dyson, Tatupu, and Hill weren't here until 2005.

Defensively you're looking at guys like Anthony Simmons, Chad Brown, a washed up John Randle, Reggie Tongue, Chad Eaton, etc.

Exactly my point, I luv a good defense but they don't need as much time to develop. The offense has to work as a unit, timing and choreography take time to develop.

 

[bobflipaburger]

This team is not finished growing.. But what are you talking about? This team is ready to start competing NOW... I'm not sure what your expectations are, but do you remember 2003 and 2004? Those teams both made the playoffs (one lost in Green Bay and one lost at home against the Rams), but it didn't really come together until 2005. This team may be similar to one of those teams this year, although I believe this team is better (or at least more talented) than those teams but the NFC is insane right now. This team will be right in the thick of the playoff race at season's end and I believe will win the NFC west.

I'm not sure what you have against Marshawn, but he's only 26. In a couple years maybe he starts to decline and we start to lessen his workload by giving Turbin more carries and then when Lynch's contract is up Turbin will be ready to start. Not only that, but Lynch is the key to this offence. The passing game may take some time to get started, we may need Lynch to carry this offense early on.

 

[sprhawk]

I expect we will have a rough learning season this year. I don't think we have much of a chance of making the playoffs unless SF does a complete 180 and falls on its face.

http://www.seahawks.com/news/articl...sselbeck/6607de35-e5fd-415e-a0aa-612202705204

I don't expect things to click right away.

I don't dislike Lynch, I just don't think he is as good as some believe. This will be his 7th season and probibly his best statistically. If it does take a couple of years for the offense to click I'd rather have a RB (Turbin) who has been learning to click with the offense than a declining Lynch.

 

[sprhawk]

If you compare Lynch to SA, last year would have been Lynch's best.

At this point SA had 7,817 yds and 89 TD's
Lynch has 6,025 yds and 35 TD's

Not very impressed since most people don't even put SA in the top 10 RB's.

 

[bobflipaburger]

Shaun Alexander had one of the best lines I've ever seen. If he had this line he would get crushed, Lynch behind Hutch, Jones, Tobeck, and Grey would dwarf SA's production.

 

[seer-12thman]

I think with the addition of a good pass rush, full camp and the time they played together last year this defence is as good or maybe better then SF. They seem to be impressed with Flynn and like the change of pace he brings to the offence. I think the offence will also be better then SF. I think the Seahawks will go 11 and 5 and win the division once again. Go Seahawks!

 

[TwilightError]

I think getting to playoffs this season is about 50/50. If the team comes together in the end and we get a wild card playoff spot, from there anything can happen. The offense has then had a whole season to gel together and they are not new to each other anymore.

Realistically I dont see us beating 49ers this season for the division title. They have the same defense as last year and have gotten a lot stronger in offense in the offseason (RBs and WRs). I would love to see us win it but I doubt it. Wild card is difficult because of our tough schedule, but if all goes well, it can be done.

 

[bobflipaburger]

The 9ers are overhyped. They played a lot of close games, Smith is bound to start throwing some INTs. Its going to be a close race for the division this year.

 

[Paybacktimes]

I am predicting a 10-6 season with the hawks winning the division and one playoff game.

 

[sprhawk]

Well I was very surprised with how well the offense did. I expected more penalties, bad snaps and false starts. There was only one errant snap, Flynns fault.

 

[szat]

I could see us splitting the series with SF. So we have to win our div games, which makes our first game pretty important. No pressure though!

 

[bobflipaburger]

The entire NFC is nuts... The only teams I can see being "bad" are the Rams and Vikings... And I don't think the Rams are that bad. I wouldn't be shocked if 11-5 got you home field in the NFC. The teams that get to play the AFC west or south (pardon the pun) lucked out.

 

[szat]

I think San Diego and Denver are going to be tough though... Speaking of which, I will be starting a INGRAM vs. IRVING thread if I see many more contrasting performances. Melvin in SD game was a manchild!

 

[bobflipaburger]

And the Texans are in the South. Still better than playing the North or the east.