#ONE;51490 said:QBs that do bad in the preseason do even worse in the regular season.
But I am not just talking about #s.. anyone that watched him. Anyone that knows what a good QB looks like, can tell you Whitehurst is not one.
Anyone watching JP Losman knows he should not be playing in this league, let alone at QB. Same story.
If I am wrong I will eat crow. I like mine medium rare.
Wow is all i can say to this post. Everyone on here was praising the line a few weeks ago saying how far they have come in such a short period of time. Its amazing to me how one loss can completely change everyones opinon of our team. Im not saying by any means that our line is spectacular because the last few weeks it has been horrible. When everyone was healthy, the line actually looked really good. Injuries happen to every team and it has happened to our line again this year, im curious to see how Pitts does when Okung is back. And as far as Whitehurst, I think he has a lot of potential. Did it show in preseason...not a whole lot but you never know. The first game against the Titans he looked like a complete stud and everyone was jumping on the bandwagon that he should be starting and we have a QB controversy. He looked terrible the next two games, but he is a guy coming into a new team trying to prove himself...wait until you see how he does on Sunday to make a true evaluation. This is his first year in the offensive system so I can only imagine how tough it is to run a two minute offense that is completely new to you, let alone Bates offense which I heard can be pretty complex. Give the guy a break and stop being bandwagon fans that say how horrible we are when we lose and only praise the team when they win.#ONE;51484 said:The Giants don't have to game plan for anything.... this will be like playing a retard in madden with your difficulty setting to Rookie.
They will stack the box on running plays and stuff our backs before they even get the ball. They will rush 3 or 4 on pass downs and get pressure.
This line needs to be completely rewamped next year... minus Okung and maybe Unger, I wan't every last one of these bums gone by the start of next year.
Until this team does that I will have NO FAITH in them. I don't care who starts at QB.
And since this topic is about Whitehurtst starting. I think he would do horribly regardless of the line situation. He forces throw, looks uncomfortable in the pocket, overthrows open widereceivers resulting in picks.
And from what I saw in preseason anytime he plays from behind, he plays even worse. He cannot run a hurry up offense and will not be able to rally a team even if they're down by one score.
I give him a nice rating of FAIL!!!
Seattlehawk94;51513 said:
HawksFan1987;51515 said:Whoever wrote that article is a fucking moron. Absolute ignorance.
On a different note. Did you guys know that Hasselbeck has been struck by lightning twice! He has only had only minor injuries both times lol. THAT IS NUCKING FUTS!
I mean I get the skepticism...but you are basing it off of his preseason. You picked his two worst years at Clemson to post as his statistics. His ACTUAL college carrer statistics were 9665 yards 49 TDs and 46 INTs with a passer rating of 124. His best year came as a sophomore when he threw for 3561 yards 21 TDs and 13 picks with a passer rating of 135. After that year he was projected a first roud pick. He then followed that up with a terrible year and a mediocre year his senior year. Its too bad he had 4 different offensive coordinators throughout college, that makes it tough for a young college quarterback to succeed...you probably didnt know that though. Had he followed up his tremendous sophomore year with another even solid year, he would have came out and entered the draft where he would have most likely been a 1st round pick. So to say the talent and potential isnt there is absolutely absurd. But I can see where youre getting that from since you choose to only look at his 2 worst years as a college quarterback. Im not gonna sit here and say he is the "savior" of this franchise because I dont exactly believe that. I am gonna defend him and give him a shot to see what he can do in a meaningful game in the NFL. The talent is there, so just wait until you actually SEE what he can do rather that looking up useless stats that mean nothing right now. How great were Ryan Leafs stats out of college and where is he now? College stats for quarterbacks rarely transfer over to the NFL. If he is terrible after getting his shot then criticize management or him all you want. And im not even just talking about after one start with a beat up line against a ferocious pass rush because honestly this isnt an ideal situation for ANY backup quarterback to come in...especially in his first start ever in the NFL. If he does well this weekend it wont be because of luck I can tell you that, the odds are heavily stacked against him so if he can find a way to play well against the Giants with the line as beat up as it is...you have to know there is something there.Seattlehawk94;51513 said:
dmarkholt12;51518 said:I mean I get the skepticism...but you are basing it off of his preseason. You picked his two worst years at Clemson to post as his statistics. His ACTUAL college carrer statistics were 9665 yards 49 TDs and 46 INTs with a passer rating of 124. His best year came as a sophomore when he threw for 3561 yards 21 TDs and 13 picks with a passer rating of 135. After that year he was projected a first roud pick. He then followed that up with a terrible year and a mediocre year his senior year. Its too bad he had 4 different offensive coordinators throughout college, that makes it tough for a young college quarterback to succeed...you probably didnt know that though. Had he followed up his tremendous sophomore year with another even solid year, he would have came out and entered the draft where he would have most likely been a 1st round pick. So to say the talent and potential isnt there is absolutely absurd. But I can see where youre getting that from since you choose to only look at his 2 worst years as a college quarterback. Im not gonna sit here and say he is the "savior" of this franchise because I dont exactly believe that. I am gonna defend him and give him a shot to see what he can do in a meaningful game in the NFL. The talent is there, so just wait until you actually SEE what he can do rather that looking up useless stats that mean nothing right now. How great were Ryan Leafs stats out of college and where is he now? College stats for quarterbacks rarely transfer over to the NFL. If he is terrible after getting his shot then criticize management or him all you want. And im not even just talking about after one start with a beat up line against a ferocious pass rush because honestly this isnt an ideal situation for ANY backup quarterback to come in...especially in his first start ever in the NFL. If he does well this weekend it wont be because of luck I can tell you that, the odds are heavily stacked against him so if he can find a way to play well against the Giants with the line as beat up as it is...you have to know there is something there.
HawksFan1987;51522 said:You hit the nail on the head man!
Seattlehawk94;51523 said:I picked his MOST IMPORTANT years...His last two.....Fixed it...
Oh and the "four OCs"...SFW? I did know that...Good QBs can thrive in any system.
87, I've forgotten more about football than most people here KNOW....Disagree with it but calling me a moron is fucking beyond....
MJD...He's not "Hitler"....He's Charles Manson....Doesn't have the mustache or short hair to be Hitler...lol...He did do something "inappropriate" to me----he came here as "the savior" and posting shit on Twitter and Facebook about "I should be the starter" and shit like that.
"Find another team"...Oh, yeah...Seattlefan at it's finest....It's the land of "ie" (Ichie, Lopie, etc), if you don't say "ie" on a players name and show any form of dislike for a teams moves in Seattle you aren't "a true fan"...I'm a fucking Hawksfan.....Doesn't mean I can't not like certain players on my own team....
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Seattlehawk94;51523 said:I picked his MOST IMPORTANT years...His last two.....Fixed it...
Oh and the "four OCs"...SFW? I did know that...Good QBs can thrive in any system.
87, I've forgotten more about football than most people here KNOW....Disagree with it but calling me a moron is fucking beyond....
MJD...He's not "Hitler"....He's Charles Manson....Doesn't have the mustache or short hair to be Hitler...lol...He did do something "inappropriate" to me----he came here as "the savior" and posting shit on Twitter and Facebook about "I should be the starter" and shit like that.
"Find another team"...Oh, yeah...Seattlefan at it's finest....It's the land of "ie" (Ichie, Lopie, etc), if you don't say "ie" on a players name and show any form of dislike for a teams moves in Seattle you aren't "a true fan"...I'm a fucking Hawksfan.....Doesn't mean I can't not like certain players on my own team....
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SeattleSportsBlog: Who is Charlie Whitehurst?