Seattle Seahawks to Follow an Old Pattern to Land Their New Quarterback?

[Ballzdeep]

Sign Flynn, he's a FA so it costs us no picks. Trade our 1st, 2nd and 3rd for a top 5 and grab Barkley. I think with the last two drafts and FA Pete and John have put us in position to burn a few picks for that elite QB.

Having both Flynn, Barkley and TJack wouldnt be a bad QB core.

Now that would be great!! I'd hate to trade all three, maybe 1 and 3 . But i don't think pete is going to do it, he's going to die with tj.

 

[Ballzdeep]

Tarvaris says: Lookey here...I'm not only worse than mcnabb,I be havin an IQ of firfteen(13)

 

[bobflipaburger]

You can't compare Matt learning two new systems in two years (three if you count this year) with much less talent around him to T-Jack who is in the same system he's been in his entire career with a good receiver that he's familiar with (Rice), plus Baldwin, Zach Miller, etc.

 

[Ballzdeep]

http://blogs.seattleweekly.com/dailyweekly/2011/07/tarvaris_jackson_is_not_a_legi.php


Another worthless,no nothing rag i bet huh. It's endless,the number of articles and stats,that prove we have a gawd awful qb playing for us right now. Hell, he even made a list of the 50 worst qb's in nfl history. Hass was no where on that list...LOL

 

[Ballzdeep]

You can't compare Matt learning two new systems in two years (three if you count this year) with much less talent around him to T-Jack who is in the same system he's been in his entire career with a good receiver that he's familiar with (Rice), plus Baldwin, Zach Miller, etc.

I'm looking at their careers personally. Your absolutely right here! Hass even played about 3 years with recievers that couldn't catch a cold. Most drops in the nfl those years. Seattle is no where on that list even this year.

 

[Seahawk28]

IF we could trade that far in to pick up Barkley with our #1, and maybe a 3 thrown in, it would be worth it. At the rate we're going we stand to finish better than .500, so our #1 isn't anything to write home about. I'm all for doing what it takes (Draft pick trade wise) to get this guy. Luck would be good too, but money is on Barkley. Either way, we have a QB for the future, with a very talanted young team around him. Yeah, there are other positions to be addressed, but this is the big one, future wise.

 

[szat]

Hassellbeck would have been retired if he would have hawks this season, early when our line was completely green.
Now your starting to see the pendelim swing. Watching Matt right now, against the Bills, he looks really good.
But last year he played like shit (until the playoffs). If you inserted Matt into our offense now, he might play well maybe even better than TJack, but you cant deny that Tjack has improved, had rating against Philly was 139. Its not as black and white as you make it seem.

 

[bobflipaburger]

Our line was shit last year too. It is pretty black and white to me. Matt wasn't great last year but with tthe running game (that he had maybe twice all of last season) and the playmakers we've added to this offense I believe Matt could have a pro bowl caliber season. Matt knows how to throw receivers open, he knows how to get the ball Mike Williams. Jackson hasn't proved he can do any of that, he's surppassed my expectations, but let's not go overboard here, here's not going to the pro bowl anytime soon.

 

[Ballzdeep]

Our line was shit last year too. It is pretty black and white to me. Matt wasn't great last year but with tthe running game (that he had maybe twice all of last season) and the playmakers we've added to this offense I believe Matt could have a pro bowl caliber season. Matt knows how to throw receivers open, he knows how to get the ball Mike Williams. Jackson hasn't proved he can do any of that, he's surppassed my expectations, but let's not go overboard here, here's not going to the pro bowl anytime soon.

Yeah, pretty black and white to me also. It is humorous to see the argument,it just makes no sense at all.T-suck has improved alright, he went very,very,shitty,to very shitty! wow,what a qb!! I'll take T-choke as a backup if i'm forced to,but as starter,on the team i like,no thanks.

 

[HawksFan1987]

Screw it..lets trade our entire draft for TEBOW!

1st, 2nd and 3rd?! Are you guys fucking high?

Schneider and Carroll will never do this. They're bargain shoppers and damn good ones at that.

Flynn's as good as ours.

 

[Ballzdeep]

They wouldn't trade tebow. Yeah, who the hell would want tebow.... i mean shit, who in the sam hell wants to win. A qb that wins... no way.Keep him! TJ,TJ,TJ,TJ,TJ.. LOL So what's tebows winning percentage? lol who's high?

 

[bobflipaburger]

If we're going to cripple ourselves to trade up for a QB, we might as well as try to get the Colts' pick and draft Luck.

 

[Ballzdeep]

If we're going to cripple ourselves to trade up for a QB, we might as well as try to get the Colts' pick and draft Luck.

They aren't going to trade up... i don't think anyway. They are homers, they will get flynn,a guy that has been in the league 4 years and still looks like a rookie. But, i'd rather have him than what we have now.

 

[szat]

Our line was shit last year too. It is pretty black and white to me. Matt wasn't great last year but with tthe running game (that he had maybe twice all of last season) and the playmakers we've added to this offense I believe Matt could have a pro bowl caliber season. Matt knows how to throw receivers open, he knows how to get the ball Mike Williams. Jackson hasn't proved he can do any of that, he's surppassed my expectations, but let's not go overboard here, here's not going to the pro bowl anytime soon.

Ya our line sucked last year and the begining of this year. I wouldnt disagree that matt might be playing better right now, but we made the right move bringing in T jack a tougher qb to save matt from certian death weve been over this ground many times before........

What is very clear is that ballzdeep has utter hate for Tjack, and mancrush for VY (texas love) and MH.
Which is fine Im glad the ppl who get paid to make the decisions dont feel the same way...

 

[Ballzdeep]

Ya our line sucked last year and the begining of this year. I wouldnt disagree that matt might be playing better right now, but we made the right move bringing in T jack a tougher qb to save matt from certian death weve been over this ground many times before........

What is very clear is that ballzdeep has utter hate for Tjack, and mancrush for VY (texas love) and MH.
Which is fine Im glad the ppl who get paid to make the decisions dont feel the same way...

No, no,no... i don't like either one of them!!! They both are not good at all. I'm saying vince is better,and he is. His entire career says so.Because you don't like it,you come up with stupid statements like that? wtf I'm sorry if you have a hard on for T-suck,that's your problem. You are right though on only one thing, i hate T-shit. Using your retarded logic, that means you want to have but sex with your local players? If no, then don't post stupid shit that i didn't say.

 

[JustDoug]

At Ballzdeep,

2011 Tarvaris Jackson: Averaging about 190 yrds per game, with four more to go.
Yards Yrds/Att TD% Int% Sck'd Rate
2,255 7.0 3.1 3.7 31 76.1

2010 Mathew Hasselbeck:
Yards Yrds/Att TD% Int% Sck'd Rate
3,001 6.8 2.7 3.8 29 73.2

2009 Mathew Hasselbeck:
Yards Yrds/Att TD% Int% Sck'd Rate
3,029 6.2 3.5 3.5 32 75.1

2008 Mathew Hasselbeck:
Yards Yrds/Att TD% Int% Sck'd Rate
1,216 5.8 2.4 4.8 19 57.8

My assessment seems more accurate; as neither quarterback had an offensive line to speak of. Neither had a stretch the field receiver, neither had a consistant running game, and neither had a consistant coaching philosphy. Still though, Tarvaris came in not knowing any of his team mates, which is a little harder to do. Can we get an offensive line next?

 

[Ballzdeep]

At Ballzdeep,

2011 Tarvaris Jackson: Averaging about 190 yrds per game, with four more to go.
Yards Yrds/Att TD% Int% Sck'd Rate
2,255 7.0 3.1 3.7 31 76.1

2010 Mathew Hasselbeck:
Yards Yrds/Att TD% Int% Sck'd Rate
3,001 6.8 2.7 3.8 29 73.2

2009 Mathew Hasselbeck:
Yards Yrds/Att TD% Int% Sck'd Rate
3,029 6.2 3.5 3.5 32 75.1

2008 Mathew Hasselbeck:
Yards Yrds/Att TD% Int% Sck'd Rate
1,216 5.8 2.4 4.8 19 57.8

My assessment seems more accurate; as neither quarterback had an offensive line to speak of. Neither had a stretch the field receiver, neither had a consistant running game, and neither had a consistant coaching philosphy. Still though, Tarvaris came in not knowing any of his team mates, which is a little harder to do. Can we get an offensive line next?

whatever man.... If you like t-suck over hass that's completely your prerogative! Hass has PROVEN to be a better player than t-joke will ever be. Career stats is where you need to look! Winning percentage is a good stat also, shows if they lift their teams up or not.

 

[JustDoug]

At Ballz again,
I admire your integrity sticking up for Hass and all. In the end, it ain't up to either of us cusses!

 

[Ballzdeep]

At Ballz again,
I admire your integrity sticking up for Hass and all. In the end, it ain't up to either of us cusses!

true.... Just can't wait to get a qb,and we are talking about whether this team will win 12 or 13 games!

 

[HawksFan1987]

They wouldn't trade tebow. Yeah, who the hell would want tebow.... i mean shit, who in the sam hell wants to win. A qb that wins... no way.Keep him! TJ,TJ,TJ,TJ,TJ.. LOL So what's tebows winning percentage? lol who's high?

Ok dude, now youre just being a contrarian.